Traps should be a thing, not every kill is meant to be pointy stick

im talking about dripstone traps not traps in general

dripstone is not much different to leg cutters. Still a sure kill.

To be honest, I agree with rendering stalagmite traps useless. Getting KBed to your death is not enjoyable. Then again I'm not a fan of traps in general — I don't think leg cutter ganks should exist either, and I think grenades should do limited block damage to make them less useful.

dripstone is 0% equal to leg cutters power747, when u get kbed in dripstone u insta die with 0 survivability chance and u cant even fight back to get a kill before dying. im not the one dying to dripstone, im the one using it in wild, so trust the experience. and dripstone + climbing pick combo is deadly in wilderness. there are multiple ways of surviving slab gank. since it requiers LOT OF time to kill slabbed person. there is time to drop water, water is counterable, but allies can jump in who arent in combat to cover him, they can fish rod him out, he may also climb pick out if gank isnt deepslate walled, etc. dripstone has no escape if trap is in claims, in wild u can pearl down before hitting. as simple as that, so zaify, are we removing dripstone from claims?

dont go near claims then, the banner is in wilderness last time I checked

But as you know, "don't go near claims" is rather disingenuous advice because KB still exists and siege banners are placed right next to claims. But I do not think these should exist even outside claims. Obviously I am not a PvPer, but I don't think it's controversial to say that these insta-kill traps are not fun irrespective of whether they are inside claims or not.

Given that most people agreed that leg cutter ganks should be banned (https://discord.com/channels/184403250609520641/597913023708921867/1004332084732637224) - and I do too - I find it rather intriguing that people are opposed to the removal of even worse contraptions. The most charitable interpretation of this is that people's opinions on this topic are inconsistent.

as a pvper who has kept a consistent view on this type of stuff, i'll try to give my opinion on this. i've been going to sieges for a long time now and the reason why i like ccnet over other servers so much is that sieges are always changing. i won't say which, but i recently played two servers that have sieges that i have not played on for a long time, and they're the exact same as they were 2 years ago. like absolutely nothing had changed, and i can't see why the same people play these servers. i don't want sieges just to be a pot pvp team fight with a mix of guns and cannons, that gets boring. this is why i try to make suggestions to add little things just to change up sieges a bit, like when i suggested slime pants before they were reenabled or reenabling invis pot. i like that these weird new metas pop up because it adds something new to try or to look out for, as long as there is a counter. traps in the wild are really cool, and i don't think there is anything bad about them. both sides can use them equally, they can be countered, and they're just smth unique to make fighting a little different. traps in claims can't usually be countered tho, such as slab ganks or stalagmite traps, and i believe those things should be made illegal

No player (pvper or not? finds leg cutters or stalagmite ganks 'fun'. I mean yeah they give you some cheeky kills but it isn't giving you any sort of fun or isn't based on skill whatsoever.

100% leg cutters should be removed, so people can't just blindly attack players and just easily run back to their ganks and be perfectly safe. It encourages strategic pushes to banner and gank fights based on skill/number regardless of which town's claim it is.

Oh and if course, stalagmites too, just remove their damage entirely, they serve 0 purpose