This already exists and is called Nations Broadcasting Corporation.






:)

Not really the place :/

I think it's a good suggestion Rick, but the question lies in if this suggestion will be swept under the rug because of higher staff disapproval.

this is a good suggestion but this will probably be swept under the rug as pinky said.

A third party server that staff don't look at nor can moderate and only a fraction of the community is in is not a good solution

tbh most of the active community is in it
is it just a "fraction of the community" because you are not in it?

I was in it for months I just left because it was literally just toxicity

Staff don't even read that server so how would it be helpful?

I can't see how talking about bans publicly other than explaining what the ban reason means, helps at all. The current admins and I have had decent, public conversations about bans in the past, but they never really went anywhere (as in, they did not change the ban and the result of the ban itself) to be honest. If a conversation is civil I'm all for it, howeve, recently, I have not seen anything beyond a circlejerk [such as "free my homie X"] or meaningless outcry [such as "wtf why am I banned staff bias I did nothing wrong"]

Also ignore + ratio on Mr_sad_Frog's comment, you want staff to use a third party server that is also toxic, to handle a formal procedure such as a ban like what lol.

Because it's very easy for players to mislead staff who on the most part don't have a very good functional grasp on how nations systems work nor do they participate in the actual ccnet server community. It's easy to police harassment or toxicity infractions, but there have literally been so many cases within the past few months of false bans and unbans that could be avoided if people could actually discuss bans without getting muted or having chat purged.

Taakot, the "circle jerk" is the only way to actually present it in a public format.
Going through great lengths to discuss bans has only lead to channel purges and punishments (with exceptions, i wont lie)

Also, I should of been more open with my suggestion
I dont actually mind if this discussion channel was hosted on the website (probably be easier to organise)

@Kingstanchez
> the "circle jerk" is the only way to actually present it in a public format.

No, a civil, rational discussion is.

Taakot, formal public ban discussions in discord get removed

Rick makes a fair point that the 'jerk circle' is seemingly the only way for a ban discussion to go through. This is so because when a seemingly civil conversation about a ban that the community deems unfair in all rightness, it is unfortunately wiped from existence, which has been seen on varying occasions, which is not, in my opinion, the best way to handle things.

That is why the option of creating a space for justifying bans from a public aspect should be considered, helps to ease player stresses and reduces unfairness, as quite frankly, some bans are not deserving and some are considered 'quick finger bans'.

In all rightness occurs*

Toxic discussions also get removed. I don't agree with the purge in general, I think it's in bad faith. I want to make that clear. However, it's up to management, and if they don't wish to change that I am not going to attack them for it, nor waste my time

With that out of the way: I just don't think that, in most cases, people can actually have civil conversations about bans, as most of these people (yes, the ones that cause a commotion every single time a ban occurs) perceive the context of a ban as inherently negative and targeted. See my previous comment for more info. That's all from me in this thread.

I mean they ban appeal should happen in discord tickets they are more useful and staff replies quicker

Jungle, tickets would become overly crowded if that occurs.

Taakot, while i may not know every time a ban discussion was purged, the most recent one was very civil and while it contained resentment, the point was made quite well and the correct action was taken by staff

I don't see an issue with inquiring about the reasoning behind the ban if you are genuinely unsure, but if you want to dispute the ban length or the reasoning behind the ban, then you need to go through the correct channel - that is, a ban appeal - because otherwise people might get the impression that whoever shouts the most in the Discord will be guaranteed an unban, which isn't fair and isn't something that is sustainable on larger servers (extreme example, but imagine if Hypixel allowed that)

Involving ban appeals then, would it be possible to have them open to the public? or even have a discussion platform on the website?