approved

sounds like a bug report

I quite dislike the idea, you're right that some people can get logged off by their networks or other factors, but if this is implemented, there will also be people who log off knowingly that they have soulbound on their items, which would damage fair looting from sieges.

Nah torque it’s intentional now. “Combat Logging NPCs are designed to punish you for logging out, your entire inventory is forfeit, including soulbound items. This is not a bug, this is a punishment for disconnection during PvP. Laggy connections to the server are not exceptions to this rule. Ensure that you have a stable connection to the server before engaging in competitive gameplay.” That’s the latest development by ineusia.

Paul when u logged off before this NPC change, u would still lose the binding rune on ur item. The death loot from logging and normally dying was exactly the same before the NPC change. So it wouldn’t give any advantage at all to logging off. they still die and drop all of their items and lose the binding rune on their sword

Allowing soulbound to break the rules of combat logging is counterintuitive to the purpose of combat log punishment.

If you soulbound your armor, your weapons, your tools, you are merely losing potions and any other common/cheap items you may have on your person.

That effectively destroys the entire point of punishing combat logging, because you are no longer losing anything valuable.

The ultimate point here is that logging off during combat, no matter the reason or cause, is treated equally for everyone. We do not care what caused you to log off, because we cannot verify claims to determine whether or not they are legitimate.

If a legitimate server-side issue caused your combat log, then you can of course create a ticket to retrieve your items.

Connection issues, purposeful logging off, your mom unplugging your router, or sneakily unplugging your ethernet cable because you want it to look like a legitimate disconnection are not reasons to circumvent this punishment. The point is, if you don't want to lose your items, ensure you're able to PvP and exit combat safely before exiting the game.

If you're afraid of losing items with sentimental value, then put them in a museum or something. Gear are not unique, you can make expendable items that are identically maxed out with your "favorite" gear items.

u are still losing the soulbound rune tho? dying normally punishes u by making u lose everything except the soulbounded items, so what's the difference? why would anyone log off in combat on purpose anyway? the only reason people do that is to avoid getting into combat, but they log off too late and get into combat anyway. "or sneakily unplugging your ethernet cable because you want it to look like a legitimate disconnection are not reasons to circumvent this punishment." no one is ever going to do that because it is the exact same outcome as dying normally. if anything, u have a better chance not logging out and just keep fighting

even if they do log off on purpose, why does it matter? they're still going to die, and they're still going to lose the soulbound rune and all of their other items, just like they would if they died normally. what's the difference between dying because u logged off, and dying because of a skill problem? there shouldn't be any extra punishment for logging off because it's not harming the other player that they were fighting. if anything, the other player wants the player to log off because it's less work for them and a free kill. this is just some random conditional that makes no sense. why punish for this, but not someone dying in a siege or smth? (i'm not saying that should be the case)

the thing i really don't understand, why did this change even happen? soulbound being used up for combat logging worked since n2 release for over a year and a half, so why change now? no one ever complained abt it, and it was kind of a given that soulbound works for all forms of death, including combat logging. i mean even torque replied to this saying it's a bug, and others said the same thing when i talked abt it

yes true

I agree with Ineusia

I don't really understand the point of this not being a thing
What's the difference between dying due to combat logging or actually getting killed?
When I am combat tagged and I logg off, my punishment is to lose a full set or armor and a binding rune (or apperently 5 binding runes if you're crazy enough to use them on armor). Isn't that already a big enough of a punishment? The fact that a small moment of your internet dying can already cause you to lose these items is one thing, but losing your OG netherrite sword due to it dropping even with soulbound doesn't honestly make sense.

Again, I'm really trying to understand your point Ineusia, but it doesn't make sense. The abuse of combat logging would be in a case of being ganked or on the edge of death, now tell me, what is the difference between losing all your stuff by combat logging or by just dying normally? Nothing, there is literally no "abusing combat logging". Because you lose all your items in both cases, so the extra punishment of also dropping your soulbound items is very unnecessary. Mainly because (like turtle said) in most cases people die due to their wifi actually dying and not intentionally combat logging, and losing such an emotionally valued item is to big of a punishment for something that is completely out of your control.

- Another note is that it's not exactly that simple to implement

I can't pretend to know how each plugin works but i can imagine that soulbound items are being "rebound" to the NPC that then holds your items while you are away, this would mean that when the NPC is killed (and subsequently deleted) your soulbound item is deleted with them (since it was tied to them, not you)

Point is, it was not purposely left out, it's simply due to how the plugins interact with one another

Okay that's fair enough, I think the real suggestion here then is to make a poll on wether we should have the NPC system (with a risk of losing soulbounded items) or have the old system (but no risk of losing soulbound items).