love the idea of missions i think we would officially have a job

Missions hmm... looks like jobs with extra steps. In which there has been 2 jobs suggestions since the resets of the game mode and both have been denied for this reason(which i find reasonable):

"It's a monk faucet without a sink to absorb the money. There is no purpose to money when there's an infinite supply of money that takes no investment. With a Gold based economy, you sink time and effort into obtaining your money, and you lose something (the gold) which allows for a finite amount of money on the server as a whole. Implementing more methods of income is possible, but Jobs is not the way."

i like the idea of it but we should do this in the next reset which idk when its coming

(I like the idea of it but we should do this in the next reset which idk when its coming)
It will never be coming back to ccnet that for sure.

NI_KO3122 do you have an idea how broken a Jobs is, to put you on perspective there's a particular job that you can earn almost 300k in more or less than half an hour with no effort and you can do it while AFK.

Stahart, I don't know who you are but this isn't "jobs with extra steps", Jobs is an inherently individual and passive way of making money, Missions promote cooperative gameplay and only reward money when a set goal is reached. If you want to divert the conversation to jobs then talk about the mind numbingly boring gold economy is literally the Miner job but even worse.

NI_KO3122 why does it have to come after the "next reset". Why not now? Also the staff have said there's no reset coming.

Jobs were also a passive way to make money, that's the main problem of such systems: making money passively is not good at all for the server

I agree but this is quite the opposite of passive income, that was the point of my reply, I don't know why Stahart derailed the convo by bringing up jobs in the first place.

"Stahart, I don't know who you are but this isn't "jobs with extra steps", Jobs is an inherently individual and passive way of making money, Missions promote cooperative gameplay and only reward money when a set goal is reached. If you want to divert the conversation to jobs then talk about the mind numbingly boring gold economy is literally the Miner job but even worse."

Let's take this apart really quickly:
1.) Your proposed system is based on individual effort toward a common goal, where the reward is distributed to each player based on how much they distributed. Imagine there is a goal to harvest 600 pieces of wheat, for $150. 3 People contribute towards this goal evenly, and each get $50 for their troubles.
1a.) This might as well be each person having a job that provides $0.25/wheat farmed. That's why this reeks of a restructured jobs plugin, because it provides the exact same benefits as a jobs program, but at random.
1b.) I will give you that there is the change of randomly generated missions and random times, but in my experience those types of events make people less willing to engage, not more, with the sole exception being when something really valuable is at stake (which is not the case here).
2.) It is very, very tempting to believe that this type of plugin will create structured cooperation. It seems like it forms goals that the whole town can work towards, and that mayors can push when they don't have any goals of their own. However, this falls apart very quickly when examining who would utilize this.
2a.) Towns with 1 or 2 active people will almost never need the rest of their town to complete the goal, and most wouldn't be able to mobilize their town for the simple promise of a few dollars.
2b.) Towns with tight-knit, small communities are already quite active, and while this system would help them the most, I don't see what the benefits of a random, low-reward event would be in actually assisting in their goals.
2c.) For large towns with an on-off player base, most people simply wouldn't have the time to complete these random goals, because they don't have the time to complete their own objectives anyway,
2d.) I simply don't find any situation where this system creates a a long-lasting impact on the viability or prosperity of towns. The only possibility I see is that on very new players, where these goals might help them get started. But I don't think they would be able to get enough of the resources together, let alone manage the plugin among all of the other plugins available on the server, and I see it simply going by the wayside quite early on.
3.) I'm confused by the commonly held notion that the only way to make money in the current economy is through gold mining. Sure, to get a start, most players have to revert to their gold mining system. However, as time progresses, a surprisingly large number of avenues open for individuals to make wealth. And while this is an argument for another time, I just want to rattle off a few routes an individual can go down to make money, if only to show that we should be focusing on expanding and increasing these opportunities through the community and existing plugins, not through new plugins:
3a.) Item trade, through things like:
3b.i.) Runes (General and Corruption)
3b.ii.) Nether Stars
3b.iii.) Crops & Food
3b.iv.) Gravel, Coal, Cobblestone, and other general materials
3b.v.) Gear (Both for war and general)
3b.vi.) Animals
3b.) Manual Labor
3c.) Movecraft Design and Creation
3d.) Mercenary Work
3e.) Theft & Pirating

Its not derailed to jobs, its because the suggestion is somewhat already talking about the REASON why jobs was removed.

" There is no purpose to money when there's an infinite supply of money that takes no investment."

This what i meant, yes call it mission all you want but the source of money comes from the void, its infinite. One can just open their own SOLO town and do their mission and earn money by themselves and not mine gold to keep their town running. Why farm gold or trade when you can just do mission to earn money. Last time i remember upkeep in nations is SO MUCH NERF that you barely pay anything anymore.

Heck why hire more people when each of you can open your own town and do missions and earn money faster. And even if you give more bonus to more people in town wouldn't that be broken? or unfair to people who can't recruit people to their town?

Yes you might say silver is an infinite source of money but to get it started you have to grind so much as a starting player to get the SF machine in place and you have to MANUALLY place fuel and transfer so much stuff (cause cargo isnt there). And the trade of all that effort for a few $$$ is not worth spending time. But the reason why it was added was to compensate the very very very late game of the nation's server, incase gold becomes hard to farm at least there is a small income you can get since you already have set up your SF machines for it.

And even if you dont have the SF electric machine for you, you can still do it using basic machines but a lot more effort, (even the factory set up in OE takes too much time and effort and fuel to produce a somewhat big money to produce from silver, that not take into account that its totally RNG also)

i really don't have a job man so i just vote thats all i do except random projects also where does this 300k come from i wanna know i am poor

NI_KO3122 ds server is always open to help nebies, but this... Welll this is not the place to ask questions

ok :(

As Liciea has said, this system would encourage 1-player towns even more, which is already a subtle meta on the server encouraged by the town-resource system (and other factors).

What may be interesting is to make the missions not random but reliant on a town's production, and the reward for missions is whatever resource the town is producing. For instance, if a town produces clay and coal, then the mission will either give clay or coal as a reward. On top of this, the scale for the missions is fixed and not dependant on the town's player count. This means small towns will have trouble filling these missions, whilst mid-sized/active towns can do well. The requirements for these missions can often be bulk materials from other biomes, which encourages trading. For example: lots of bread and vegetables for oil, because oil usually appears in places where farming isn't easy.