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Balancing Biomass, and Making Suggestions to Improve New Changes Back

MMiqa 10 months ago

Hello everyone,

I can say I am very happy with the changes on exotic garden and making it more realistic, but I have problems with crafting "Biomass" but since growing a corn crop takes 1 hour, drops 3-4 corn (without optiumum fertilizer, since it doesn't have one) and making the crafting 64 corn and 64 sugar cane seems a bit not logical to me, why you ask? One of the reasons is sugar cane is very, I mean VERY easy to come buy, comparing to corn and making 1:1 crafting for 1 biomass is not logical.

Allow me to go into a bit deeper to the problem, lets say you make a 16x16 farm (a single chunk) and you planted about 4 stacks of corn, which gives you at least 12-16 stacks of corn per floor and lets add another 29 floors to it with the help of froglights, what do you have? A 30 chunk big crop farm. Lets say all the advantages are on you, you are in temperate climate, which gives you minimum 60 min growth time and don't forget it doesn't have any optimum fertilizer (it was left as blank on the website, maybe all of the fertilizers goes as optimum? Who knows) and you want to grow corn in that 30 chunk big farm, you wait 1 hour and you harvest it (automation, harvester or by hand whatever you like) and lets take the conservative value and assume that you get 16 stacks per corn;

16*30 = 480 stack of corn is the maximum amount of corn you can make from a 30 chunk big corn farm
480/64 = 7,5 stack of Biomass is the MAXIMUM amount you can get

Not to mention the struggle to find seeds, since 6:1 ratio (in some cases, it is the opposite irl) and grinding coal at that duration can be more worth it, that can be converted into coal blocks and energy as well

My suggestion is enhancing the ways of making Biomass and balancing Biomass, in the past fuel was not used and zaify buffed it, then nerfed it, I know you guys are going cautious, but a change can be improve these changes, I love this change and want nothing but make suggestions in order to improve it, making it more like irl for roleplay and gameplay purposes. Not everyone lives near desert or ocean, but can grow hella stuff.

I found this while doing my research, I hope it helps expanding and balancing these new Biofuel/Biomass and Exotic Garden changes, keep it up CCNET! You are killing it.

Some of the most common (and/or most promising) biomass feedstocks are:

Grains and starch crops – sugar cane, corn, wheat, sugar beets, industrial sweet potatoes, etc.
Agricultural residues – Corn stover, wheat straw, rice straw, orchard prunings, etc.
Food waste – waste produce, food processing waste, etc.
Forestry materials – Logging residues, forest thinnings, etc.
Animal byproducts – Tallow, fish oil, manure, etc.
Energy crops – Switchgrass, miscanthus, hybrid poplar, willow, algae, etc.
Urban and suburban wastes – municipal solid wastes (MSW), lawn wastes, wastewater treatment sludge, urban wood wastes, disaster debris, trap grease, yellow grease, waste cooking oil, etc.

(https://www.eesi.org/topics/bioenergy-biofuels-biomass/description)

Comments

EndFle 10 months ago

He is right zaify fix it

PandaDeltaFrappe 10 months ago

so what would you like the recipe to change to instead?

EndFle 10 months ago

panda sus bi

Wheeldeal 10 months ago

I think that there should be more than one recipe for biomass, using a variety of different crops

MMiqa 10 months ago

I agree with Wheeldeal, we can make something like "Mini Biomass", easily craftable, 4 of them makes a Biomass (small chunk of uranium, 4 small chunk of uranium > uranium)

I am giving this Small Chunk of Biomass, 4 of them making it a Biomass in order to compare it with Uranium, so you know how to make one (names can be changed don't judge yet)

We can make something like Small Chunk of "Biomass", craftable with different types of crops, for example; 64 sugar cane + 64 wheat + 64 potato all 3 of them together makes small chunk of Biomass , 4 of them a biomass. But for Exotic Garden 4 of the Corn can make small chunk of Biomass, same way 4 of the small chunk of Biomass makes makes a Biomass

Vanilla crops are easy to get so we can make 3 different vanilla crop to make Biomass.

I will make this simpler if some people are confused

We don't need to use heated chamber, we can use "Ore Crusher/Ore Grinder" like we do with uranium, and we can use Enhanced Crafting Table, but if you want to use heated chamber the process needs to be quick, if it takes too much energy to make 1 small part it doesn't worth it, since it doesnt have simple/non-electrical way to craft them.

But for exotic garden, not together but alone like;

4 Sweet Potato = 1 Small Chunk of Biomass
4 Corn = 1 Small Chunk of Biomass
4 Rice = 1 Small Chunk of Biomoas (Rice straws can be converted so Biomass, I am surprised as well)

For vanilla recipes

64 Sugar Cane + 64 Wheat + 64 Potato = 1 Small Chunk Of Biomass
64 Cod + 64 Salmon + 64 Kelp = 1 Small Chunk of Biomass

4 small chunk of biomass = 1 biomass

or any other way to make it, but since these farms are easy to make and you can basically (not basically, gonna make some hard calculations if you are not avare of energy management your mind is gonna blow)

Making a Biomass this way (64 Wheat + 64 Sugar Cane + 64 Potato)*4 gives a Biomass which gives about 12,96 in Biofuel form. But wheat, sugar cane and potato all give 24J in Bioreactor, but these amount in bioreactor gives (24*4)(192) = 18,432 kJ. In biomass form it seems that it lost energy, not better than bioreactor, but since bioreactors J/s is 16 and combustion reactor is 70, i think it is pretty balanced since you use less combustion reactor, more bioreactor. Not to mention you put all of the stuff in bioreactor by hand and crafting biomass is less labor work its a good balance. Neither of them is better, depends on your preference both is ok.

Gestern_Morgen 10 months ago

Seed extractor should also be made opposite like mentioned here so that 1 fruit produces six seeds. That would be much more realistic and useful to the player.