SF Gear • CCNet

SF Gear Back

Nuxyr over 2 years ago

This is aimed to fix 2 issues

1. a cheaper and less powerfull type of gear is kind of needed on nations, to make it worth bringing new people into pvp, without it feeling like you are giving away free armor sets to your enemy, because as it is now, most new people quit before ever tasting actuall pvp even if they join an active nation, also, SF based 2nd tier gear would allow new nations without access to massive exp farms to actually have a fighting chance.

2. With most SF recipes removed, a lot of materials simply have no use, such as Zinc, Tin and Aluminum , (and partially lead), there is basically just 3 dusts worth grinding (Copper silver iron) and everything else is needed in low quanitities to the point that production of usefull dusts simply turns the rest into mostly useless overly abundant byproduct that wastes storage space.

List of Recipes:

Duralumin plate: 9 Duralumin Ingots Compressed in pressure chamber

Duralumin Armor : Armor set made of Duralumin plates, Iron protection 4 unbreaking 3, gives speed 3 and jump boost 2 permanently if wearing entire set (Duralumin is very light alloy, so it somewhat makes sense)

Solder Plate : 9 Solder Ingots compressed in pressure chamber

Aluminum Bronze Rod : 2 Aluminum Bronze in stick shape, Stick base item. , enchaced crafting table

Solder Axe : 3 Solder plates, 2 Aluminum Bronze Rods - Sharpness 5 Stone axe (Solder might be very soft material, but it being made out of lead
implies heaviness, and Stone axes have slow speed and low durability, Sharpness 5 is not unbalanced due to slowness of stone axe and somewhat
makes sense due to implied heaviness) (This can be replaced with Solder Hammer that has same stats (18 damage to make up for Str2) but is entirely new item, and works like a bayonet, meaning it cant miss hits and cant crit, and therefore it is good for low skill players and bad for those who can use vanilla weapons to their full effect)

Cobalt Plate: 9 Cobalt Ingots compressed in pressure chamber

Cobalt Armor : Armor Set made of Cobalt Plates, Diamond Protection 3, Almost as good as regular armor set,
but in my opinion, it is not OP due to Cobalt being made of iron and copper which are both in demand

Cobalt Sword : 2 Cobalt plates, 1 Aluminum Bronze Rod Sharpness 3 Diamond Sword

Duralumin Scythe : 2 Aluminum Bronze Rods, 2 Duralumin Plates, Sharpness 5 Iron hoe (might be broken, has higher DPS that sword, but cant crit reliably therefore its still a bad choice for perfect pvper)

(Amount of plates gained from 9 ingots can be used to balance things out, if they give just 1 plate, that means
one armor set needs 216 ingots, in case of Cobalt that is extremely expensive)

Comments

Klepto over 2 years ago

If this armour has as much drip as damascus steel and gilded armour I find little reason to vote against this

Boris308 over 2 years ago

I completely agree but i think the material requirement is a bit excessive. 216 ingots per set that is supposed to be a 2nd tier cheap and expendable gear. maybe alter the recipes so that each one has only one plate in it and the rest are ingots? or a mix of plates and ingots to cut the price.

Also i would make it so that Duralium armor gives you 20 seconds of slowness after being equipped, to prevent it from being abused (switching armors, one for chasing, one for battle).

xITAxHuman147 over 2 years ago

Remove speed and jump boost and the armor will be ok, the rest seems ok to me

S3xyBerry over 2 years ago

What keptto said, if they have the drip that gilded and damascus have then its a YES

Ineusia over 2 years ago

I'm not necessarily against adding different ways to obtain competitive gear, however:

This goes entirely against the shift in my design philosophy between the old Slimefun and the Runes update.
The entire design philosophy behind runes is to remove the rigidity of having entire gear pieces serve a singular function.

If you can find a way to redesign your suggestion in a way where it doesn't introduce single-use gear items, I'd be more interested in it.

Nuxyr over 2 years ago

Is this opinion shared with the rest of the staff? Because in my opinion having gameplay diversity based on "set bonuses" is a very neat and easy to balance concept, and it also does not directly compete with runes as you basically need to wear entire weaker set to gain the bonus, I am willing to redesign it but I simply see no sense in different sets of gear that are basically just a sum of protection and armor and therefore a direct upgrade to one another with only the best one and the most cost efficient one being worth considering.

Ineusia over 2 years ago

Competition with runes is irrelevant, runes are an example of a shifted design philosophy.

Static design is too rigid and disgusting for maintainability as well as limiting in terms of gameplay. It's why I took the "SF gear" and turned them into runes. It allows for each rune to have a single definition and it allows players to determine exactly how they want to use the "bonuses" from the "SF gear" without sacrificing any aspect of vanilla gearing.

Crafting specific gear items that have single purposes forces players into creating an unnecessarily large amount of gear, much that may be potentially unmodifiable or static.

It's additionally irrelevant whether the rest of the staff agree with me, this is a development and gameplay decision, not a staff decision.

What I'm asking you to do is consider whether or not your suggestion is flexible or inflexible in-game, and consider if you can make it more flexible.

Your suggestion seems to fall under the umbrella of reverting design choices, creating recipes for single-purpose gear. Single-purpose gear pieces will not be re-added, but that doesn't mean we can't take your suggestion and use it to create some sort of "enchantment set" that can be applied to any armor piece of your choice.

xITAxHuman147 over 2 years ago

I want thorns 55 for chestplate, it oneshots whoever attacks you, but your armor goes poof