Reconsider the Gank PvP Meta • CCNet

Reconsider the Gank PvP Meta Back

ImperialCutter about 1 year ago

On N2, ganks surround every fort and the objective is to draw your enemies into them so they can be trapped and killed. This is an import from Hardcore Factions servers and I think it is ill suited for Nations. It encourages frustrating fights where each side pops out for a few seconds, tags enemies and jumps into their gank as soon as they get low. This is a huge advantage for defenders because their ganks are right next to the siege banner. It becomes more infuriating when the gank is in a peaceful town so you can't even get a tank to blast a hole in it. At least HCF ganks are always vulnerable. Even the tank escape strategy can be countered by making the gank deeper. All this is bad because it discourages the fun long, large team fights that were common on N1 and leads to one dimensional PvP at sieges. Please consider stopping fence and trapdoor usage if you are in combat.

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Kingstanchez about 1 year ago

I do agree that fence gates and trapdoors should be non-interactable when in combat, but forgive my possible naivety, is it not possible to avoid these ganks and instead focus on an area that is not in claims. I know knockback is indeed a factor in pvp, but that requires a user to get behind/flank you, and in a siege environment one should be coordinated with your team.

humik58 about 1 year ago

Ganks make wars extremely sweaty frustrating, unfair and boring, especially when you can't counter them, your suggestion would only slightly improve the situation, as people can use mob trap tactics with one person inside under a slab cutting your legs

Klepto about 1 year ago

Purposely made ganks are generally Easy to avoid it's the ones that are created from cannon fire that are annoying

MRCOWDUDE about 1 year ago

I'd like to take credit for starting this meta. In May I knew that Carthage was going to get sieged by Nordic, and I also knew that I had some absolute dogs that were going to be fighting for Carthage, so I had to improvise and I went back to my HCF days and remembered the fallers that you could go into if you were in trouble. This worked out really well for the dogs who can't swing their sword and many lives were probably saved. Didn't think it would catch on like this and I personally think it has gotten out of control because after Carthage not one major siege has been fought without a gank bruhhhhh. Im sorry for starting this meta!!!

Torque about 1 year ago

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Taakot about 1 year ago

There's no need to apologize about that, Cowdude. The entirety of Nations has seen metas (in terms of any aspect of gameplay, war, econ, etc) that one person finds or brings to the gamemode, and the entire server is sweating to follow. Part of the reason that a multi-faceted issue crops up during these metas is because Minecraft is a sandbox game. So there is not much to be done there, in terms of our server, we nerf/remove, and players move on.

Anyway, back on topic. Dealing with the entire issue of the "gank trap meta" is not as easy as just removing it (it is a sandbox game after all, you cannot stop people from building one). However, I also think that removing any switch use during combat tag—yes, including elevators—would be a great start.

S3xyBerry about 1 year ago

No,switches should be allowed,trenches in claims shouldnt unless its a cannon blow

You have no idea how many other stuff no switching would affect if you just decided to do it

Movecraft is one of them

S3xyBerry about 1 year ago

Like Keptto said,the most annoying ganks are random 1x1 holes in the wild by cannons that you cant escape for 30 seconds due to combat tag which is very lame and your death most likely

S3xyBerry about 1 year ago

I'd prefer a fence gate on town border meta over a hole because it takes effort to actually go through the fence if you're getting kb-ed all the time