Well it is sort of a necessary evil in a way, canister shot is meant to be anti infantry and is the main bulwark of a fort's defense for banner, this in turn forces the besiegers to use movecraft and cannons to take out the fort's cannons, now you could argue that regular shells would be enough to ensure that the cannons still pose a threat but it would be far weaker and make movecraft a lesser priority for sieging towns

Maybe reduce its lethality a bit?

Maybe get better? KEKW

I have no idea how you die to canister shot, I suffered multiple direct hits from multiple cannons at once at iceland and didn’t die despite wearing leather pants with no prot. It’s not op, you are over exaggerating.

I don't think anyone actually read what I wrote and just looked at the title, never once did I say that canister shot is OP in terms of damage in its current state, I said exactly the opposite, that it is pretty useless at killing people directly but very annoying and aggravating in two cases: PvP and holding the banner.

To drill in that point, canister shot is NOT OP in terms of DAMAGE, but is a huge annoyance which does not enrich the siege experience.

Canister shot is not lethal. It is an annoyance.

It should not be made more lethal because that will make into a kill farming machine that will worsen the problems that I explained in the original post, please read it

If you do remove canister shot there needs to be something the defenders can use to take out infantry however to maintain a balance.

Perhaps to discourage it's wide spread use in sieges as a pure disruptive tactic meant only to annoy players on the battlefield, limit it's use to small 57mm and small 240mm, as as far as I am aware the majority of defending guardian towns utilize large 57mm and 240mm for stationary wall defenses, this would be cause for both more variation and strategic placement of armament on walls as reduce the ability to utilize canister shots from any point on a wall. Combine that with whatever minor balancing changes would be needed for it such as a slight damage increase

Flat out removing canisters as a whole is a bad and drastic move as is mentioned above, as there is little else that serves as widely usable anti-infantry weaponry

That wouldn't work either Oreo, they would just build small 57mm cannons on the walls to supplement their defenses. I disagree with the premise of this suggestion, mostly because it views the war as an only pvp experience, when in order to win you have to use movecraft effectively or you will get blasted

The problem with Canister Shot isn't its design but the fact that there is practically no drawback to using it. And I believe it might even need a buff, it has a very small explosion range (good thing) but also low damage (bad thing considering its original purpose). It should be way more expensive overall in return, and/or even have some limitation or drawback to using it multiple times at least...

the problem isnt in canisters but the counter to them, theres very limited ways to fuck with walls and cannons

It's a necessary evil but it must be nerfed and it should do the same damage on ENEMIES and ALLIES so it wont be used to disperse crowds of people fighting each other

Now don't get me wrong don't tell me it's fixed,in Soccoa it happened a lot of times,they shot a bunch of canister directly on their own to little to no damage but we get -5 hearts by just being on the corner

no.

i almost died to 1 shell, explain