Of course one would say "why not just bring your own pvpers" this would mean the infantry would be augmenting the tank and not the other way around as it's supposed to be

You know that tanks are not supposed (by design) to be used against swift infantry, but more to support infantry and destroy immobile armored positions?

While part of that is true, tanks are supposed to be able to use “Machine Gun Drums” as a counter to infantry moving towards it.

However a couple months ago it was nerfed significantly.

*Tanks were invented to support infantry troops through no mans land while massacring enemy infantry and forts, should i mention that 3 bullets shot from the old anti tank rifle was enough to leave you with permanent arm injuries*
Tanks should be able to counter infantry as my suggestion explained, last night in warsaw i spammed anti infantry shells at banner, with half of people not giving a damn and kept capping
To your suggestion keptto, i'd buff anti infantry shells, and its also possible to make full hull out of terracota on sizes of 400

HumanError7 yes that is why i made the suggestion because tanks aren't really meant to counter infantry, infantry shouldn't be able to counter tanks it just makes no sense balancing wise. Because it does appear that anti infantry ammunition does exist it is assumed that tanks are supposed to overall support infantry aswell when pushing against defenses but because the ammunition type is so weak it subtracts from the purpose of tanks

Machine gun drums on direct hit reduces 1.5 hearts from you, continuous firing can definitely push enemies away, also anti tank gun is not one shot and you should not be able to push tanks against infantry anyway because that is not what they were designed to do at all, they were designed to take out armored defensive positions and cannons, not take out infantry, that is why infantry exists, to protect the tank, ensuring combined arms operation between foot soldiers and tanks. TLDR tanks cannot be anti cannons anti infantry and still be immune against infantry attacks by removing their only weapon against tanks excluding cannons in which a good pilot can easily avoid.

I know that's why I said either tanks should be anti defense's with infantry not being able to counter them like it was before with no issues or tanks should have some valid anti infantry method

And yes the anti tank rifle does one shot concrete, tanks have the mobility advantage while forts have alot more cannons and the ability to repair them on the spot so it isn't really needed when you do need infantry generally to ensure they can't repair along the walls so it just seems like an unneeded disadvantage for tanks when it was fine before with little complaint

Also consistently hitting anyone with machine gun ammo is just impossible it sends them flying to the moon

then they should get reduced kb, either machinegundrum needs fix, removing the anti tank rifle wont do anything

> we use a new tech in a siege
> people crying in suggestions asking to get it removed

classic

You killed Corvettes, Fighters and now you want to also kill Anti tank rifles?

Literally most of us said anti tank rifles were an unneeded addition since they were added, and "killing" corvettes and fighters is acting like there totally wasn't a corvette only meta, nor the fact that fighters literally melted walls for being a few wool blocks

And torque like I just want it to be how it was before with tanks being able to destroy defenses and do nothing to infantry and infantry being able to do nothing in return just to keep things simple you should only be able to deal damage to move with other movecraft and cannons is what I want considering the fact that you could just as easily trap a tank by making a few pillars

Anti-tank rifles are effective only at a minimum distance if infantry can touch the tank it's more than fair that the tank can be opened if you want your tank to be immune to anti-tank rifles just stand away from infantry and shoot at them

that isn't really factoring in the often terrible terrain that restricts movement and as i said above simply standing away and shooting at them isn't really much of a discouragement when the damage is negligible

Terrain is something you must take count of before even taking your tank into a battle. You won't be able to fight with tanks in the alps. Blocking tanks was always a tactic since they were created, but this can be done only if the tank doesn't respect the swiftness of infantry and goes near it. What always defended tanks from infantry is nothing more than other infantry. Surely you can't make realistic coordinated actions on Minecraft, but to use tanks you should have at least 50% of your brain operating and not just go "ooga booga tank on infantry"

Fair enough about the terrain, but youre not going to be able to keep dodging infantry and shell what youre trying to shell. Eh I just find it annoying to have to worry about infantry compared to before with just focusing on the movecraft battle itself. That being said i also dislike how it forces you to armour specifically the bridge and doesnt give much option to diversify armour scheme

As I said, if you move you can still somply ignore infantry, adding more ways to counter them is the perfect way toadd a skill requirement to use things that would be really op otherwise.

Not really ignore since if they get on the side of you or on-top there's not much you can do, and that's the thing tanks weren't op before the T gewehers were added so it seems unnecessary to have the only thing I can think of that it improves about it is that it encourages a bit more thought and time on the design of a tank