towny resource overhaul (repost • CCNet

towny resource overhaul (repost Back

so with many people suggesting changes or town resources this is mine

1.The reroll mechanic
The first idea is a reroll mechanic. Most people complain about towny resources because they’re effectively useless for what they want to do. If a reroll mechanic is implemented, then towns can have a greater chance of getting resources that they want. To limit abuse, there would be an increasing price for these rerolls (maybe doubling the price each time?) starting at $5,000 or $10,000. After too many rerolls, it’s completely unsustainable to keep doing so (no one would pay $1,000,000 for a resource reroll, no matter how good).

2. Biome Dependency
Next, I believe that resources should be more biome-dependent, to limit certain bad or good resources items to specific locations. This would allow for a greater discrepancy between town resources, making war over towny resources a bigger possibility. By further adding items, we’ll increase the possibility that most resources a town gets are at least useful, limiting the outliers, and reducing the need for insane levels of rerolling (or town creation abuse). Here’s a few biome-specific changes, as well as a few possible new resources:

Current list [things in brackets are what i have changed ]

Resource Type Biome Availability
Coal All, but more likely in:
All Taiga biomes
Badlands
Savannah
[only these 3 biome]
Raw Iron All, but more likely in:
All Taiga biomes
[taiga sav badland ]

Bucket of Oil
Only in:
Desert
Snowy Plains
Ice Spikes
Taiga
Cold Ocean
Deep Cold Ocean
Frozen Ocean
Deep Frozen Ocean
[desert oceans costa ]
Diamond
All, but more likely in:
All Taiga biomes
Savanna
Raw Copper All [ taiga mountains savannah badlands ]
Redstone All [ but mostly coastal ]
Slimefun Dusts All [ only copper iron aluminum and sulfate ]
Gravel All
Calcite All
Dripstone All [lush areas ]
Nether Quartz All
Clay All, but more likely in:
Swamp
[swamps costal taiga]
Terracotta Only in:
Badlands
Eroded Badlands
Wooded Badlands
Emerald All [should be removed ]
Redstone All
Mushroom All [ swamp taiga ]
Wool All [ mostly in plains savannah]
Gunpowder All [ only in lush areas ]
String All [ only in dry areas ]
Slimeball Only in:
Swamp
Feather All
Leather All [ mostly plains savannah ]
Bone All [ dry areas]
Dyes All [lush area]
Pork All
Mutton All, except cold biomes.
Beef All, except cold biomes.
Chicken All, except cold biomes.
Ender Pearl All
Prismarine All [ only coastal and ocean areas]
Honeycomb All [ plains and dry areas]
Wheat All, except:
All Desert biomes
[no cold biomes or wet biomes
Melon Slice Only in:
All Jungle biomes
Cactus Only in:
All Desert biomes
Uranium All
Lapis Lazuli All, but more likely in:
Desert Hills
Ice Only in cold biomes.

We would also add more items to this list
Biomes
Carbon [ all mostly deep ocean or mountainous area ]
Compressed carbon [ [ all mostly deep ocean or mountainous area ]
Raw carbonado [ all mostly deep ocean or mountainous area ]
Nickel ingots (for the ingots the should be different amounts than dusts)
Sulfate [ desert mostly ]
Brass ingots [ dryer areas ]
bronze ingots [ dryer areas ]
Steel ingots [ dryer areas ]
Power crystals [ all ]
magnets [ dryer areas ]
Silicon [ dryer areas ]
Glowstone [ all ]

By doubling the list, we dilute the pool to the point that making a ton of new towns wouldn’t be worth the 10s of thousands of dollars for rerolls.

3.Population dependencies
Another reason people feel Towny Resources is redundant is because very few towns reach past the 3rd level. This means that the vast majority of people aren’t getting the maximum value out of the plugin. If these higher tiers can be bought, that would increase the pool given to nations (increasing the value of the plugin for warfare), as well as give smaller towns with huge economic impact the ability to properly use the system.

If buying for higher tiers isn’t feasible, maybe we could use androids instead? For instance, having a certain number of androids working for purely towny resources would allow for a town to collect resources, even if they don’t have the population. It might not work plugin-wise, but could be an interesting avenue to explore.

i'm reposting this because it had major support and id like to see how we feel about this 6 months later you can refer to the last one on (june 30th 2022) for already asked questions

Comments

Fury_Phoenix1 4 months ago

I am against point 3. The point of needing people is to encourage recruiting and keeping people active, presumably (no, not no-lifing).

Also I don't see anything regarding penalizing town creation spam somehow, do you mean applying the stacking cost to the player making the towns? Or is it intended to be entirely ignored.

For the biomes list, can one even legally create a town in deep oceans or oceans?

Also can you link the original post directly... I don't really want to have to comb through the pages to find it.

logantherock01 4 months ago

while yes encouraging recruiting is good we already have separate systems in place to do that as for smaller towns who don't want to run the risk of player theft sabotage and all the rest of the reason people want to make small . they are then not able to use the plugin effectively. while in most other areas that require recruiting people there are caveats for instance town claims u are able to buy town claims to have more space for your town now eventually u need more people but it at least helps. (the android thing is just an idea more of a throw it out and see there are many different ways of accomplishing the same thing)

as for penalizing spam you can adjust the numbers but if u for instance making each reroll double and starting at 10k (which i think is to high) after 5 rerolls it would go over 300k which no one would every pay on top of that with the list of items your not guaranteed a good item even if you reroll. the larger the list the more dangerous it is. as for where it would be applied you would raise the cost of doing the reroll like you would for the regular scan so its 5k, 10k, 15k ,25k or something like that to get the resources you would just make the rerolls double or any other way of increasing it to make it balanced. (all the numbers and even resources can be changed this is just a general idea )

as for the deep ocean and ocean technically yes you can make a town over an island that would go into both of those areas but those are few and far between. its mainly stated because I went directly off the list on the wiki and made my changed that way

https://ccnetmc.com/suggestions/view/1849-towny-recourse-overhaul-/

lordsrubka5 4 months ago

Recruiting wont be impacted at all. Towny resources are mostly passive income to the town that may or may not be useful. Recruiting on the other side can bring you players that benefit your town far more than daily resources. From a single new players recruit bonus you can get more than 2 weeks worth of really good higher tier resource, not to mention you can even have small taxes that give you multiple times more money than towny resources. On top of that difference in value between the passive income and recruiting income, do not forget that survey is a huge gamble. On higher tiers you are essentially gambling if you will even be paid back that money in a month or two. And lastly nothing is stopping people from just inviting people and waiting for them to log off. My town has 50+ residents and there is hardly any difference.

Town and nation expansion should focus on your own hard work, not on gambling for resources and luck for recruiting on peak hours

MadeInChinaLol 4 months ago

Bro singlehandedly gonna make oil harder to get for everyone even the oil barons

logantherock01 4 months ago

the numbers are all temporary and just there for example. as for pumping oil this would change nothing at all, it has nothing to do with slime fun pumping and would not change the areas or numbers for that