This is unreasonable, I understand the frustration with autocannons dealing ridiculous damage but I think the correct way to deal with this problem is to simply reduce the damage autocannons do to players while increasing the damage IFVs deal, not allowing infantry to counter movecraft.

Generally, the reason Movecraft is a good addition to the server is due to it being the only thing stopping clans and logons from rolling over every other nation, allowing planes (which, during sieges especially, require large amounts of skill to use effectively) to be shot out of the sky by simply right-clicking on them is a terrible balance suggestion, especially with the requirements you need to get them up in the air.

Well you are assuming the rifle is gonna one shot the plane, as far as I know, it is possible to play with how much actual damage the bullet does to the plane as well as how many blocks need to be missing for a plane to fall, I think it would be reasonable to down a plane with 100-200 hits, also it is very easy to miss planes especially since they are just teleporting around in the air. Also Squadrons are a thing and planes are relatively cheap. and hey, maybe even having a plane class that does not need aircraft carrier could also be a thing if they were "take downable" by ordinary rifles. It is certainly something that can be played around. Just assuming panes are gonna get "right clicked" right out of the sky is a huge jump to a conclusion considering you didn't even see suggestion being implemented.

Well planes have to have the carrier because of how fast they are they would become the best possible method of travel without it. So if a plant class was added that did not need a carrier it would have to be slow and AA would shred it.

plane not plant

The problem with this is i see no way to really balance it either the plane gets blasted out of the air before it can run away in which case its to op. Or it doesn't do enough damage to kill it quickly and you just hit after burns and go get another one. (though this might be balanced giving to a way to get the fighter to back off for a bit)

The problem with this is the same problem we face with guns 20 people can start firing on you so you have to balance it for 20 making it virtually useless.

I think it is reasonable to have planes disintegrate when getting shot by 20 people at once

But then whats the point in AA guns? Most people carry a gun so you don't even have to do anything different to counter it.

Plus the fact thats its way easier to hit a plane with a gun because of the increased bullet speed.

Currently there's a huge difference in skill with fighters some people are way way easier to shoot down with an AA gun. Ashes on the other hand is basically unhittable and ive tried a lot(He loves shooting down my zeppelins). With the guns the skill of dodging doesn't help.

I think you guys are underestimating Zaify's ability to nerf something into the ground, as I said, it could be balanced around simply just having hits do little to no damage so they are there only for the purpose of not allowing the plane to just "invulnerably" hover around and hit people. I am pretty sure it would be more of a zoning tool than actual way to kill planes as it was irl. Its not that I expect plane to just fall out of the sky from 1 shot like we are playing duck hunt

Make it so that a bullet has 10% chance to remove a block from a plane, not op, but plane still can't just ignore them. Problem solved.

If this ability is added, I think it should be restricted to the Tankgewehr.

I second that, Zaify.

Problem with Tankgewehr is that then there will be many situations when fighter just shoots at people completely immune to everything they can do. I think every kind of bullet should have 10% chance to remove a block from a plane.

It is not even realistic as if this was a cold war server (assumption of having afterburning jets) this is not realistic at all as IRL everything was a steel/metal bodies and i dont think the normal skill of a random goon trying to shoot an aircraft even going 4 blocks per second is possible. Also i belive this being unnnessesary tho as chipping 1-2 blocks wont do much