the update gives a chance to new nations, we dont want server to be dominated by a few big nations that sucks

I get that, but this server thrives because of the conflict between bigger nations. With this change, all conflict between bigger nations becomes worthless. People will go inactive and quit. And no new nations will ever happen again.

I just love how "Killing people and getting sets" becomes the main point of wars. Conflict between bigger nations if its an equal fight means people on both sides die equally so the sets are pretty much traded at equal rates meaning you have no income or loss of sets. In that sense the conflict is also useless is it not?

Due to that stereotype people fail to actually see the picture. Im not sure about the value of sets nowdays but we will assume that it is 1k or under for armor and 1.5k for sword so ~2.5k total per kill. Even if you manage to get like 1-2 double chests of sets advantage over the enemy that is about 30-60k from kills alone. That is if a lot of big fights happen or if you win every fight one sided. If a lot of fights happen that means the warchest is also larger. In that scenario warchest can end up being ~100k. Not to mention that from occupying a fort and peaceful towns near it you also get about 4k cash wise and maybe another 4k towny resource wise cash daily making it a total of another 112k cash over the span of 2 weeks. So in total sets would bring you only 20% of the total value from wars given that you win the attack.

What are the alternatives to increase that 20%? Perhaps increasing by how much the warchest increases per kill, increasing money from occupation from 75% upkeep to 100% upkeep or even adding extra reward system from participation in wars.

Looting sets in wars has been a thrill in the past yes, and grinding for wars is important but so are the other aspects of nations as well. Most nations would just work on movecraft and grinding for wars and have absolutely no good looking peaceful towns since they are so occupied by having to grind 24/7. Some of them arent good builders or dont like building but still

PVP'ers atleast in thracia are going to quit because of this. Getting sets is what they find fun in sieges. And taking that away from them is only going to take away players. And kill CCNet. It doesnt matter what value sets hold in sieges. As they hold a much more important part to keeping CCNet alive.

The problem with this suggestion is that equipping many people with binding runes is not affordable for new nations who are intended to be one of the main beneficiaries of this change. The market price of a binding rune is currently $1,700.

> PVP'ers atleast in thracia are going to quit because of this. Getting sets is what they find fun in sieges

Doesnt their online time on ccnet only consist of either grinding for a war or being in it? If they only hop on to fight wars and dont care about actually fighting but only just killing weaker players that dont spend as much time on practicepvp servers as them then i dont know what to tell ya

Matter of fact, not even killing, robbing them of their sets. Because if they found the actual war fun then items wouldnt impact much of their gameplay

And if its about the "cost of the war" it can be altered in other ways as stated above

also just to add in lords points, an armor piece roughly costs 200-250, max dia sword goes for about 800-1k, a pvper normally carries 27 heal pots (as they are the biggest gold drain) divide it by 3 as 1 melon makes 3 pots and you get about 9 melons, multiply it by the cost of it and thats about 72 dollars. so the total inventory cost for a pvper is roughly about 1872-2072 dollars.

"PVP'ers atleast in thracia are going to quit because of this. Getting sets is what they find fun in sieges. And taking that away from them is only going to take away players. And kill CCNet. It doesnt matter what value sets hold in sieges. As they hold a much more important part to keeping CCNet alive."

Oh no, anyway

Zaify as Perpltxed said, a set only costs 200-250, currently binding runes are very expensive at around 3k, by making them cheaper by reducing the demand or by other means the price can be lowered to around 200-250. Nations just starting wouldnt be able to grind these sets too easily as they lack spawners, but regani is not as hard to grind, and if they can supplement the sets they'd realistically need for a siege, by using binding runes I think they would take that opportunity. Although I do admit this system could be flawed as older players might just buy up all the binding runes anyways for their own sets.