If the real issue is players stacking in one craft, why should it not be made possible for all craft pilots to be able to cap withing 30-60 blocks of the banner, only make it possibly for people piloting a craft so one can't stack players in it, For my case this would be pretty fair and balanced.

For example in our case*, the real issue was around 8 players in a singular craft capping, but if all those 8 pilot a craft and gather around the banner it would be much fair and not easy enough to be overpowered.

I dont listen to ConttDJ

Contt nice idea and I’d like to expand on it makinh it so only the pilot can cap is good but the other thing you could do is limit the amount of people that can cap at once in a siege (in movecraft then when they cap the next bunch can cap) to slow down the cap gain

Yeah plus all nations should be forced to do Movecraft no nation should only do one or 2 things

And o can now expand on raptors idea since other then for random strats that aren’t really too effective against competent pvpers movecraft ain’t too useful in sieges atm so it would give a reason for all nations to include movecraft into sieges

My idea is to have a debuff for being in a vehicle on the banner

Just kill lokans with your so called war crime. You legit bragged bout it that it can defeat even the best of pvpers so why not just use it 🤷

lokans change absolutely nothing on ccnet sieges, besides the fact that it's more fun cause more experienced pvp bots join up, its not an excuse of bringing back Movecraft abusive capping

lokans hate:
1) vanilla shield spam
2) guns
3) ifvs
4) gank spam everywhere
5) normal vanilla damage instead of 33%
6) horse spam
7) netherite swords
8) climbing pickaxes
9) traps
etc.

Ijust how is Lokans (predominantly sandforce Lokans who are all high tier pvpers) gonna make it more fun??? They raise the skill level too high for the average player to enjoy. And plus how is any of what you mentioned gonna help on a fight for banner? And no movecraft capping can be balanced by maybe increasing the time taken to cap on movecraft or smth to make it more balanced and let the people who arent gonna manage pvping against some high tier pvpers. Although ijust my question to you is: how is fighting multiple high tier pvpers fun???

And also Ijust are we gonna ignore the fact that movecraft is part of ccnet and should really be used more in sieges?? Atm it’s only used to use random strats and having a nerfed movecraft capping would give more reason for tank battles to take place rather then just to sink one Ifv and potentially lose a couple tanks in the processs

readding an unbalanced feature because some pvpers that are against u might play is a very bad idea. i just went through all of nc's town, and i only counted 3 new pvpers who i highly doubt will play for long, if at all because of what ijust said

"Yeah plus all nations should be forced to do Movecraft no nation should only do one or 2 things"
with movecraft capping u only have to do movecraft tho. u can use a tank to cap, and u can use an ifv to kill enemy pvpers from capping. 1 ifv stops an entire army of pvpers from capping and that has been proven 1 billion times so arguing against that is just silly. i do agree with what you are saying, but this isn't a solution. i'd say both movecraft and pvp are already required with the current system, which is good. last like 5 sieges u needed movecraft and pvp superiority to cap, moreso movecraft than pvp because ifvs can stop oncoming pvpers from reaching banner. u can't rly cap without winning pvp, but neither can pvpers without stopping movecraft. otherwise the other side will just overwhelm the pvpers with ifvs and prevent pvpers from capping

"If the real issue is players stacking in one craft, why should it not be made possible for all craft pilots to be able to cap withing 30-60 blocks of the banner"
the problem is pvp becomes irrelevant once movecraft caps. what can pvpers do if the enemies play in tanks the entire siege? nothing except getting movecraft themselves. what can movecrafters do if the enemies dominate pvp the entire siege? spam them with ifvs and prevent them from capping, and then build fortifications around banner to allow players to cap guarded by ifvs/tanks. that's incredibly boring and unfair for pvpers. they don't get to fight at all in their preferred fighting style while movecraft can stick with their preferred fighting style the entire siege

current meta still favors movecraft so i don't quite understand why these suggestions are being made

Turtle movecraft isn’t the meta anymore lmao I think that’s been proven by the fact that alnh won purkistan without any movecrafters on his side pvp is the meta and with alnh constantly recruiting lokans it makes the meta really unbalanced and also turtle this gives you a reason to have movecraft for sieges.

Cause turtle think about it this way atm the reason to use movecraft is to sink 1 singular Ifv where you’re likely to lose multiple heavies in the process. It gives more reasons for movecraft battles like we had at incindium.

wdym aln won purkistan without movecraft, were u even there in the last sessions we had tanks out

Ruleblocks you’d already won by like 6 sess in

69v29 purki siege

Turtle you are dumb because you should be forced to not just be a pvper and Movecraft is so easy to use

movecraft easy to use? could be true, or false. but either way, it is **NOT** fun.))

Ijust Ngl a merged version of movecraft capping would be nice jsut to encourage tank fights even if it’s maybe double the cap time if within 10 blocks of a friendly vehicle

"readding an unbalanced feature because some pvpers that are against u might play is a very bad idea. "

removing a balanced feature that lasted years upon years because some movecrafters used it against u that purposely ignored that aspect of the game is a very bad idea.

Agreed