why need to add invis pots when sometimes player entities go invisible for no reason? :troll:

yeah that glitch annoying but not like player can control that

this would destroy pvp where either both sides are invis or you cant hit anyone and you got the possibility of people using hacks in an invis fight to find the players, just all around bad

That doesn’t make any sense at all. You can still hit people who are invis, you just can’t see their skin or name. And people don’t hack on ccnet, and if they did, why should that stop this from being implemented? By that logic, we should just disable pvp because ppl will hack and use reach and ruin it

As someone that played n1 I didnt like the invisibility pots at all and Im glad that theyre not in n2. Would I like to use it like 3 times to sneak on someone and kill them? Sure. Would I like for it to be a standard for 3 ppl raids to splash that potion in a banner so no one knows who is who therefore you dont know what to do and the banner people die? No, no thx. It's only fun for the 2 ppl that use it and splash it at 10 ppl for those 10 ppl it woupd be stage 5 tumour

I can foresee these being used constantly at sieges since not being able to actually see your opponent is a major advantage. it really doesn't matter if it takes up more room in your inv, if the person can't see you they aren't going to be able to effectively target you. I mean hell if you really wanted to go big brain you could get 2 people with one carrying all the buffs and one person just pure health pots. This would also definitely be used to stalk people during non siege times and wait for them to go out of claims to kill them. Berry makes a great point about how cancer it would be on the siege banner. I think a way to remove yourself briefly from /near during a siege would be an interesting idea, but the ability to go full invis would be a terrible idea.

I personally see an issue with horses for this one, theyre already pretty annoying, they would be insanely hard to kill if invis I feel like

Invis horse coming to N2!
Coalition strikes back!

you can see the horse armour on horse and if it doesnt have horse armour you can still see the saddle. Say even if for some reason you cant see the saddle it would just look like players sitting in the air and just hitting directly below them wouldnt be that hard

and make it so that (if possible) your invis pots should be able to only affect you and no entity around so people dont just splash at banner or horses

+ 1, good suggestion, I loved wild invis pvp.

I honestly think it’s worth adding for variety and fun alone. CCNet is all about fraud and this would another cool mechanic players can use.

Obviously this wouldnt be overpowered in combat, as you have to wear armour to pvp, and you cant make armour go invis, same with horses.

I see no reason to not add this back, other than PvPers wanting a pure “pvp” experience.

I thought it was obvious that splash invis should be disabled to stop ppl abusing all the things stated. Sorry should have mentioned that

I would support this suggestion if invis was disabled at sieges and especially at the banner. Otherwise you could have a full invisible guy capping inside a structure and nobody would know.

I wouldn't support it in any way. Want to eat and not be seen in map? Get a block under your head.
Having 100% complete stealth would break balance.

I’d agree gqldn, but on N1 you couldn’t cap while u had invis, so I’d assume it’d be the same. That makes it fine at banner for me because I can’t see any other way to abuse it, especially if only drinkable invis is enabled

Why would it break balance, power?

I would suggest that Invisible Potions, in case they were added, would have a different:

- Drinking said potion would give you not only the invisible affect but also weakness and/or slowness (e.g. the first effect on sieges and the second on wild)

- Being damaged (e.g. Entity/Player attacks and Fire based Damages) or hitting a entity/player would result in removal of such effect given by the Invisible Potion.

- Being near an enemy (e.g. 5 blocks in Siege Zones and 2 blocks in Wild) would result in removal of such effect given by the Invisible Potion.

- Within a party group, invisible players would still be seen by the other members.

The last suggestion would give an extra incentive to create large strategical party groups during Sieges.

*different mechanism:

I think invisibility *could* work with the following limitations:

• Invisible players cannot cap the banner.

• Invisible players cannot fire guns.

• Splash potions of invisibility are disabled.

• Extended potions of invisibility are disabled (?)

Camping could be a huge problem as Scorp noted, especially if invis potions were removed from /near

so i thought abt the camping thing a long time before i made this suggestion again, and i honestly don't think it'll change much. rn it is incredibly easy to camp and kill new players, if u really wanted to. just in the past of couple days i've walked near a few newish roman players, not even on purpose, and stood close to them while they were outside of claims. i could have easily jumped them with or without invis. i obviously didn't, and i'm known to be very much against this, so i wanted to be absolutely sure that this wouldn't be used to hunt new players before i suggested this again. new players don't have access to /near nor are they worried abt being jumped, so invis isn't gonna make it any easier to hunt new players

it will make it easier to hunt experienced players tho, which i think is a good thing. i'd much rather get hunted everyday than new players that didn't do anything wrong, and the people that do hunt would also rather attack experienced players, but it's much harder to jump an experienced player. this is because they're more alert, check /near occasionally, and maybe even have the map open to see if anyone pops up for a few seconds near them. so if anything, i think this will help stop some new player hunting

I wanna see who I'm fighting if its foe or ally, limiting that could be cancer. To make ambushing easier just remove the minimaps that show ppl and entities on them. Those make ambushes quite literally impossible and ruin the ranked purpose of /near.

As for invis pots, I quite dont like them for the amount of possibilities of impossible ways to counter. What if Im fully invisible firing a gun or something? Finnish sniper moment. What are the odds a random bullet would hit that :skull:

Two posts up, we already established that invisible players should not be allowed to fire guns. It is obviously impossible to restrict minimaps, but most will hide invisible players.

Every clip I see from ccnet the minimap has people on them. I feel like the fair version is a silent majority but the one with people is most commoj with pvpers